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17th Jul 2020

Andrew Ward: HKB FiNN

HKB FiNN gave #TUWOG more than was bargained for and as FayFay will attest to, cutting this down was hard -so many juicy bits! Trying to summarise it all, even harder so, let the timestamp below be your guide 🤓


  • Origin story (05:38)
  • The black barrier (11:58
  • Using the powers of mimicry to win shields friends (20:20)
  • Subcultures in England (21:28)
  • A nomad’s guide to emotional investments into friendship (24:58)
  • Self editing to be present for others (37:45)
  • The one about the city you live in, the energy it demands of you and the relationships you have with people as a result (41:09
  • Opportunity comes but once? (42:32
  • And what does it mean to be black and undefined? (45:27)
  • Taking the scenic route brings its own opportunity for reclamation (48:11)
  • Forgiving your aggressors is its own type of healing (55:33)
  • You are more than the things that happened to you (58:07)
  • Negotiating with the erasure of self due to trauma (01:00:32)
  • Damage versus damage - are you addicted to pain? (01:03:38)
  • People don’t kill love, shotguns kill love (01:06:38)
  • Sooooo...do you want liver with that? (01:10:47)
  • On generational (financial) intelligence (01:36:00)
  •  Effort + time + quality = success? (01:45:27
  • Embarrassing moment in four words (01:52:14)
  • Books to read (01:53:45)

The Unsullied Book Club

HKB FiNN recommends:

  • The Alchemist’ by Paolo Cohelo. Available on: Amazon and Apple.
  • The Art of War’ by Sun Tzu. Available on: Amazon and Apple.

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The Unsullied with Oreka Godis
TUWOG and the archetypes of success.
On TUWOG (The Unsullied with Oreka Godis) we have conversations with people of African descent, swap origin stories, cultural challenges, shifting belief systems, explore the vices and crutches that define us, recommended reading and recipes that shape (subjective) success.

‪Recorded in Lagos, Nigeria‬, with each guest, we explicitly tuck into family and how ‘They F*** You Up (a la Oliver James) ambition, love, sex, drugs, social media, faith, money, power and lessons learned. We look from experiences that make us a little less naive to decisions that make us more childlike.

TUWOG explores transitioning through career depression, financial security, losing hope, finding unexpected gifts in moments that mean everything and nothing at all. Wanting to give up most of the time, winning the war some of the time, chalking up and dusting down battle lines of personal Vietnam’s, giving them hell and most importantly, finding out your definition of unsullied.
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Oreka Godis

British Nigerian (by way of Ogori) Actor, Producer, Radio and TV Personality, Podcaster, Host of TUWOG and Writer.